Beyond the 9 to 5 with Sam and Lisa

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In this episode the tables are turned, and Sam’s good friend Lisa Corduff interviews her about her Beyond the 9 to 5 research, and what’s happening in the world of working mothers.

Lisa has spent a decade working with mothers on reducing the overwhelm and implifying their lives, and Sam is looking at what’s going on specifically in the workplace.

This is a fun conversation between two passionate friends, discussing the challenges and the opportunities.

In this episode we discuss:

  • The motherhood penalty and shocking stories of women being sidelined when they come back from parental leave.
  • Leaving when you’ve been sidelined isn’t a sign of lack of commitment but rather a sign of ambition – women want to be doing meaningful work!
  • When we understand the structures that we’re working in, we can stop thinking it’s our own personal deficiency (if I just worked harder I’d be able to do it)
  • The second shift, and the morning marathon mothers run each day.
  • Women are feeling overwhelmed, stretched too thin, guilty, and alone amongst it all.
  • The mental load, that comes up in almost every conversation Sam has with working mums.
  • The value in spending time on yourself, on things you love to do, and having fun!

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